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Q: What
are the challenges ahead of you?
A: Revival of the economy and a grip on corruption. Both priorities
will go hand in hand. The destruction of the fiscal health by the previous
government is near total. Building the
economy may take some time, but our battle against corruption would begin
from day one. I am soon going to set up a judicial commission to probe
the corruption by Badal and his team.
Q: Wouldn't such a move be construed as a witch hunt against your political
rivals?
A: We are not going to do any thing that will appear to be witch-hunting.
That is not our objective. We want accountability - in fact every body
wants it. If we turn our back on the rampant corruption that has taken
place, what signal would I be sending ?
We will hold Badal accountable for all his ill-gotten wealth.
Q: How soon would this commission be set up?
A: I am not aware of the legal process. The moment we figure this
out, the Government will approach the chief justice of Punjab and Haryana
High Court to spare a sitting judge.
Q: Why aren't you utilising the Lokpal?
A: Well, the Lokpal is a good institution and it has its objectives.
But unfortunately, the people have played around with it. We had to move
the court to get the last Lokpal struck out
because of his closeness to Badal and the witch-hunting he was trying
to do with Congressmen. The current Lokpal is a stamped BJP man.
Q: Surely you can appoint a new Lokpal?
A: We can. The only problem is that the Lokpal is only an investigating
and not a punishing agency. If somebody is seen to be so thoroughly corrupt,
justice must be seen to done---and
quickly. You cannot wait for the Lokpal to investigate for four years
and then pursue it in the courts for another five years. By that time,
the accused may even come back to power and close the whole case.
Q: Then to whom should public complaints against corruption be addressed
to?
A: I am not saying the Lokpal is dead. The Lokpal can continue.
Q: You mean you want a judicial commission for the Opposition and
a Lokpal for the ruling party?
A: We can find a new Lokpal but in this particular case (allegations
against Badal), justice must be seen to done. Punjab has returned us on
the issue of corruption because there has been a widespread belief that
the Badal government was corrupt. If we do not take those people to task,
it will amount to condoning what they had been doing.
Q: You had promised sops of Rs 1,200 crore before the elections. Where
is the money going to come from?
A: This Rs 1,200 crore includes Rs 280 crore which the Akalis have
already given as free power to the farmers. We are also going to bridge
the gap of Rs 3,500 crore between revenue and expenditure. We are hoping
to mobilise Rs 4,000 crore by cutting costs and
improving performance.
Q: Doesn't this sound too simplistic ?
A: Well, maybe. But you have to do your best. Take the power sector.
The losses are so immense: 43 per cent in distribution and transmission
alone. Normally, it should not be more than 24 per cent. If we put good
technocrats in charge and give them powers
to function, you will see the difference. I am going to remove political
pressure on technocrats and enforce autonomy and accountability.
Q: Will you roll back the fund-guzzling populist measures of the previous
government?
A: I don't know exactly what sops they had given and what impact
it has had on the economy. We will review everything. But we have gone
about our pre-poll promises systematically. Our manifesto will be our
mission statement.
Q: Are you contemplating hard measures to improve the state of finances?
A: Absolutely. We are going to take hard steps. We are going to
have an austere government. Unnecessary spending will be out.
Q: So no new taxes?
A: That I cannot say. That is for the new finance minister to
figure out. Taxing may be an option but we will first tighten belts.
Q: The NDA Government at the Centre may not be inclined to bail you
out the way it did Badal?
A: I see it in a larger perspective. There are 13 states with Congress
governments today. Four of them figured as top performers in a survey
in your magazine. Now they too are dealing with the Centre. Why can't
we deal with them? I know there are apprehensions on the procurement of
foodgrains from Punjab. But that is a national commitment. How can the
NDA Government turn its back on the farmers of Punjab? The Centre dare
not discriminate
against us.
Q: Does the fact that you will facing a formidable opposition worry
you?
A: I do not believe the Opposition is formidable. Shouting in the
Vidhan Sabha is one thing but presenting your case is another matter.
Q: But the Akalis are very good at launching agitations?
A: They can do what they like. Their job is to just make a racket
out of everything. I don't consider them or their utterances as a threat.
We will deal with it them as the situation arises. We will give the state
good and clean governance.
Q: How long will your truce with Rajinder Kaur Bhattal last?
A: I don't visualise a problem within the party. I am sure the
Congress president will adjust Bhattal somewhere.
Q: Could it be the presidentship of PCC?
A: Well, I have no idea. The high command will decide if she fits
the bill.
Q: How do you look at your Akali background? Is it an asset or an experience
you want to forget?
A: My 14 years with the Akalis have made me aware of their mind
and weaknesses. That's why I say they are no threat.
Q: Your opponents doubt your ability to put in hard work and accuse
you of having a laidback lifestyle?
A: They have been doubting me for three-and-a-half years but see
what hs happened.
Q: Do you feel that winning the elections is easier than governing
the state?
A: Partly yes. We have taken over a bankrupt state. We will have to
grapple with immense problems. There is no doubt about that. It's like
starting from scratch.
Q: Yet you are persisting with populist measures?
A: That doesn't matter. Governments have certain responsibilities.
Today, agriculture is sinking, people are committing suicides and clutching
to last straws. How can you take away these straws? It is our business
to find the money to meet their needs,. And that is why we kept our concessions
to the bare minimum. You may call them sops but I think they are necessities.
Q: How do you reconcile you royal background and politics?
A: I take it easy. I have no hang ups about my royal lineage. I
cannot change where I was born. But I have been in boarding schools since
the age of four-and-a-half. I never came home till I was 27 when I left
the army. I have seen life and have always roughed it out.
Q: How about the perception that you have a coterie which may call
the shots?
A: I have a brain of my own. People are entitled to give me their
inputs but the final decision is always mine. There is no coterie thing.
We will not function the Badal way where you had two IAS officers and
two IPS officers running the whole state. We will have a cabinet system
with the best secretaries and police officers.
Q: But can you stop your family members from being extra centres of
power?
A: I do not have that problem at all. Neither in private life nor
in public has my family ever interfered in anything. Running the state
is entirely my domain and be rest assured that is how it will remain.
Q: How would you sum up the difference between the Amarinder
of Akali Dal five years ago from the one heading the Congress government
today?
A: I don't know which way you will put it but Amarinder is a good
chap.
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