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Q.
Why did you quit politics?
A. Having fought and won an election (from Allahabad in 1984) I realised
politics is a lot more than just playing boy scouts. Rather than impose
my inadequacy on people, I decided to quit. I would tour the villages
in my constituency and see instances where a bulb was being worshipped
because it was the only one that the area had seen in 30 years. They would
garland it and put a tika on it. It was depressing to realise that when
you asked for funds for development, so did 84 other MPs from your state,
and your share was not more than a few lakh rupees. What could you do
with it? I set up my own trust, Nirman, taken from the title of my father's
poem, Neer ka Nirman. We organised premieres and shows and successfully
ran medical vans. But I was politically attacked for it, with allegations
that I was using illegal money. It was very hurtful. I suppose I was far
too sensitive for politics.
Q. But wasn't it the accusation about your closeness to the Hindujas
that propelled your resignation?
A. That was coincidental.
Q. Your closeness to Rajiv Gandhi did make you very powerful between
1984 and 1986, didn't it? Didn't people come to you to get their work
done?
A. Not at all. Just because my office was at 2 Motilal Nehru Marg
(Rajiv's office previously) doesn't mean I was powerful. It was no indication
of things to come.
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ON REKHA
"We see our leading ladies more than our wives. That invariably
leads to controversy."
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Q. Why have you fallen out with Sonia Gandhi?
A. I haven't. Her family has been friends with mine for years.
Q. When did you last see her?
A. It's been some years now. But for me, she has been and always will
be a friend.
Q. What about your brother? Have you split with him?
A. How can I? He's my brother. The same blood flows in my veins. He
managed my career but left for better prospects abroad. He still comes
to India every two to three months.
Q. Shouldn't you have given up your NRI status after you pulled out
of TV Asia in the US?
A. No, why? You can keep it for nine years after you apply for it.
It doesn't make you less of an Indian.
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ON AMAR SINGH
"People call him a power broker. It's rubbish. When I had
no one to turn to, he came to be by my side."
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Q. Do you agree with the politics of your friend Bal Thackeray of
the Shiv Sena?
A. As a citizen, I have the right to have an opinion which I can keep
to myself. I have my own thoughts on politics but I don't want to publicise
them. Balasaheb was a close friend from a very early age. He was my admirer
and sketched many of my cartoons. He was starting a charitable social
centre and wanted me to inaugurate an ambulance unit. That was my first
public endorsement. We have great regard and respect for each other. When
Jaya visits his house, he treats her like a bahu. He visited my father
in hospital and when I was in the thick of political victimisation, I
went to him for advice. He asked me point blank: are you involved in corruption?
If you're not, he said, you have nothing to fear. If there's a storm outside,
just wait it out. It gave me a great sense of belonging at a time when
I was totally isolated and was being attacked by the government. It was
impossible to go out without hearing snide remarks about the Bachchans.
Q. Describe your friendship with Amar Singh.
A. People call Amar Singhji a power-broker. It's rubbish. When I was
all alone with no one to turn to, he came to be by my side. He will go
out of his way to ease your pain. He is one man who gives more than he
takes.
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ON SONIA GANDHI
"She has been and always will be a friend. Her family has been
friends with mine for years."
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Q. How different is it from your friendship with Rajiv?
A. Rajiv and I grew up together, but he was not the kind of person
to whom you could say, 'There's a pain in my jaw, can you fix it?'. We
had several informal moments but there are certain barriers for a person
when he's the son of a prime minister or the prime minister himself.
Q. What do you do on the board of directors of Sahara?
A. Sahara Shree (Subrata Roy) is like my family. He came to Lucknow
with just Rs 2,000 and a scooter. Now he employs lakhs of people and has
crores of clients. I respect him and he has been a pillar of strength
through all my troubles. I'm a director on the board and give guidance
occasionally.
Q. But why do you have to perform on stage for them? Isn't it an
embarrassment?
A. When have I done that? All I've done is celebrate Bharat Parv,
the glorification of Bharat Mata, with them.
Q. Do you think V.P. Singh went after you? Are you still bitter about
it?
A. He maligned me and my family. He said, 'Make me the prime minister
and within 24 hours I will put Amitabh Bachchan behind bars.' I wrote
a letter to him saying, 'Here I am. I am not hiding behind Rajiv Gandhi.
I give you one month. Find proof of my involvement.' He never could.
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ON BAL THACKERAY
"We have great regard for each other. He stood by me when
the government was attacking me."
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Q. Have you met him subsequently?
A. No, I haven't met him, and I have no desire to.
Q. What was it like working with Rekha?
A. She is a wonderful person and a wonderful actress. All my colleagues
have been so cooperative, kind, helpful and friendly. The press likes
to write things in order to sell more copies. But I suppose it's normal
with all actors. We see our leading ladies more than our wives. That leads
to controversy.
Q. Why did AB Corp fail?
A. It grew too quickly. When you expand too fast, you lose control
of the management. Then we were politically attacked on the Miss World
event. It drove away sponsors and guests. Politicians threatened us. Other
people said they would immolate themselves. The sad part is there was
a Miss Lingerie contest the next day in a Bangalore hotel where my co-star
Anil Kapoor was the chief guest. It never got written about. I could have
let the company die-after all, companies get sick all the time, people
bury them and move on. But I would have had to face creditors every day.
I could not live with that. Now we are starting small again with co-productions
and might even float an IPO.
Q. Why did you ban the media for 15 years?
A. Not 15, 18 years. And I didn't ban the press. They banned me in
1977. They thought I instigated Mrs Gandhi into declaring Emergency and
decided not to mention my name, not even while giving the film's credit
titles. When I went to a public function, photographers would put down
their cameras. I said, if they have the right to ban me, I have the right
to do so too. Only when I joined politics, which requires a certain amount
of mandatory accountability, did I relax the ban somewhat.
Q. How has your family contributed to your success?
A. Jaya has looked after the home, built up friendships. She has a
remarkable quality of remembering birthdays, anniversaries and meetings.
I'm forgetful, but not ill-meaning. I love the affection of my children.
If any of us is in trouble, we'll always be there for each other.
Q. Did you want your son Abhishek to be an actor?
A. I don't believe you can tell your children how to live their lives.
I think Abhishek has all the basic ingredients for success. I was most
satisfied with his role in Om Jai Jagdish. For me, it was a superhit because
there was nothing wrong with his performance.
Q. Will he run AB Corp for you?
A. There's nothing to run currently. We were Rs 80 crore in the red
and have returned all but Rs 5 crore. Right now, we are broke, down and
out. We'll resume, but I feel Abhishek has to first become his own man.
Q. He's getting married to Karisma ...
A. Yes, and for me, Karisma is already our daughter-in-law. This cements
a long association between the two families. My daughter is married to
Karisma's cousin Nikhil Nanda. Prithviraj Kapoor was my father's friend.
Q. An accident after which you were declared clinically dead, a debilitating
illness like myasthenia gravis, a political career in ruins, near bankruptcy.
How do you keep yourself going?
A. This is life. Everyone comes with his share of sorrows and joys.
The sooner you realise that struggle is part of life, the better it is.
Because I'm a celebrity, every deed is highlighted. My philosophy is simple,
borrowed from my father: man ka ho to achcha, man ka na ho to bhi achcha
(If you get what you want, it's good. If you don't, that's good too).
Q. What does that mean?
A. I'll tell you how it happened. Sherwood, where I was sent for my
final three years of schooling, had a Geoffrey Kendall Acting trophy.
I won the best actor award one year playing the lead in Gogol's The Government
Inspector. The next year, I had every intention of winning it again, but
on the eve of the play I got measles. I spent the entire duration of the
play, Agatha Christie's And Then There Were None, listening to it from
my hospital room. But my father told me, 'Even if you are unhappy, God
has a reason for it. He probably wants happiness for someone else.'
Q. How do you see yourself at 60?
A. Hoping to work in several more films, as long as my body allows
me to, with a new generation of directors. I'm hoping to read some of
my father's works on stage. Moreover, ever since my brother has left,
I've become financially independent. Till he was in charge, I didn't know
what money meant. Now, I manage my own finances and where I don't know
something, I don't hesitate to ask. I don't mind looking like an idiot.
I can talk about finances for hours with my friend Anil Ambani.
Q. What about politics?
A. No way. I have friends like Amar Singh and Bal Thackeray in politics.
If they ask me to attend functions, I do. If others misconstrue it, I
can't help it. I haven't said anything to suggest I'm in politics.
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